Posts by James Brown

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Giving "Jehovahs spirit" credit for mundane, everyday things!

by BU2B in

i am hearing this more and more and it is like nails on a chalkboard.

i hear it from the wt, from elders, from my parents and from jws in general.

this had to be jehovahs spirit!

James Brown

I am hearing this more and more and it is like nails on a chalkboard. I hear it from the WT, from elders, from my parents and from JWs in general.

This HAD TO BE JEHOVAHS SPIRIT! It must be Jehovah that I got this job! It must be Jehovah that I made my rent this month etc.

I hear comments that without "Jehovahs spirit" things like the preaching work could not happen, building a KH could not happen, or jw.org could not exist!

WTF?? A Kigdom hall is a run of the mill, simple basic structure. Why does it require the holy spirit to build when a skyscraper or the international space station does not? Why didnt something like lets say.. Maccu Piccu need the holy spirit to build?

Also I have heard that JW.org is PROOF of Jehovahs blessing! I mean come ON. A run of the mill website is proof of God being behind it? What is behind BBC.com or Foxnews.com? Those sites are even more slick than JW.org! Did they need supernatural help as well?

What are some things you have heard JWs attribute to Jehovah that are just crazy?

In my experience this is not just a JW phenonoma.

It is a Christian, positive thinking way of processing lifes events.

It is having a positive attitued toward life.

I have been out of the Tower since 83 and spent 10 years in law enforcement.

Every day in muster law officers would pray before hitting their post.

And Americans of all persuasions would thank God for all the good and bad in their lives.

If you get good, you thank God for it.

If you get bad, you ask God for strength and courage to surmount your obstacles.

Thats, life.

No matter what religion or lack of.

It is just one way that a lot of people deal with and process life.

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What prophecys made you belive the Bible?

by venting in

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i now believe the bible is a book of history and myths.

the org and others still point to certain prophecys that lead them to believe, that god must have been involved.

how can we explain some of these?

James Brown

— (history since 70) Scattering and pursuit of the people of Israel over the whole earth. Deut 28:64-66

That prophecy never came true, though.

Viviane

This is from Glencoe world history published by MCgraw Hill by Jackson J. Speilvogel.

This is a high school history book.

On page 308 pp6.

Regarding the crusades

"The Crusades had some unfortunate side effects on European society.

The First widespread attacks on the Jews began in the context of the Crusades.

Some Chrisitans aruged that to fight the Muslims while the "murders of Christ"

as they called the Jews, ran free at home was unthinkable. The massacre of Jews became a feature of medieval

European life."

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If you were on your death bed, what is the ONE thing you would say you have learnt ?

by new hope and happiness in

i think i would say " you can not change others you can only change your self" .

if you cant think of anything what is the next number in this sequence?.

what do these sums have in common?.

James Brown

When someone says/writes learnt they are from england, or at least not from the USA.

When someone says writes learned they are from the USA.

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My friends don't believe dinosaurs existed ....

by wannabefree in

i just found this out last night.

(preface: this is a husband and wife that i have come to be friends with after leaving the borg, they are christians).

we were sitting around visiting last night and having a good time when my friend starts in on illegal immigration and politics and starts throwing out his hate speech which eventually turns to homosexuals.

James Brown

I believe dinosaurs existed.

But I can understand why some don't believe they existed.

When I was young, I would go to the Cleveland Museum of Natural History

and they had a t rex on display, the skeleton.

When I went to the museum in school several times the teachers told

us that was a real dinosaur.

I thought it was real, until I was grown and old and found out it was a model.

Then researching fossils.

Fossils are not bones they are minerals and many museums that display fosils

are displaying a plaster caste of a fossil and the fossil is in many museums.

So I can see why some people believe the dinosaurs did not exist.

The world is full of misinformation.

I grew up watchiing a cartoon where Wile E. coyote chased the road runner who always got a

way because of his super speed.

It turns out that a roadrunners top speed is 26mph and a coyote can hit 40.

You have to research what you believe.

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If you are an open minded christian...

by snare&racket in

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i would appreciate your opinion on this historian and his explination for the birth of christianity.. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mwuzozn-9dc.

please watch all of it before you comment.

i found it very interesting,.

James Brown

I watched listened to it, while I played scrabble.

There are always two sides to every story and some times there are many sides to a story.

He poses some posibilities. And he critiques Paul and his writngs.

He is like many preachers, not all, He is in it for a buck.

He is highly educated, phd and he specializes in critiquing Chrisitainity.

Google him, go to his web page.

I enjoy reading history and how things came about.

Maybe the priest class created Jesus,

and maybe they didnt.

If you want to believe Jesus was not real, this guy gives you some

amunition for your belief.

I think in the end you will be empty and he will keep chugging along makng a living

doing what he does.

Unless you think your life is better off, believing there is no God and there never was a Jesus.

Then its a win, win.

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Books that changed your life-

by new hope and happiness in

i am not much of a reader as i have two many distractions, but i fancy a challenging read, so please list any book that has changed your entire world view on everything.

i remember as a teenager buying at a yard sale, norman vincent peales " the power of positive thinking" and at the time that had a big impact on me.

but i am a little bit more in to " realistic positive thinking" now..

James Brown

On the way out, I just bought your book from Amazon.

It had good reviews.

I am lookng forward to reading it.

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Would God (Jehovah) really choose lying and corrupt religious Charlatans like the Watchtower Corporation ?

by Finkelstein in

the watchtower publishing house has been going strong now for over 100 years, publishing numerous.

books and magazines, many which are now out of circulation.

many of the doctrines created by this.

James Brown

to JB....out of sheer morbid curiosity, maybe you can list for us which religion is:

grade school?

junior high?

high school?

college?

Ok. My opinion on my journey.

They are all kindergarden all religions.

How can I know, I am only 62 and there is a world of information out there.

But the best I can see they are all kindergarden.

The answer is within.

Each person has to work out their own salvation.

Each person has to make and complete their own journey.

We both started out in the kingdom hall and now we are on our paths leading to the progression of our

journey.

But the reward is the journey, not the destination.

The unexamined life is not worth living, I think it was Aristotle, or Socrates.

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There is no difference between people

by cassuk11 in

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just to point out that there is no difference between those who are in an organization or church and those who are not.

it rains on us all.

the mistake some make is to think some people are more righteous than others.

James Brown

You'd think, JB, that all that preaching would have more of an effect on people's actions.

Preachings just a start, then you have to read the word.

Ultimately, I think there are some good people.

I don't know how many and I don't know how good.

But I have met some good people.

No ones perfect.

There are a lot of things that make a peson good or bad.

A lot of factors are external so they do fall on leaders religious, political and social.

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Would God (Jehovah) really choose lying and corrupt religious Charlatans like the Watchtower Corporation ?

by Finkelstein in

the watchtower publishing house has been going strong now for over 100 years, publishing numerous.

books and magazines, many which are now out of circulation.

many of the doctrines created by this.

James Brown

Would God (Jehovah) really choose lying and corrupt religious Charlatans like the Watchtower

It depends on what scenerio you choose to look at the world and life from.

I have many.

One of the ones that God uses the watchtower in is,

The Watchtower is a spiritual kindergarden.

Your not supposed to stay in it for ever.

You have to wake up and move on.

Those that stay in kindergarden all their life are very slow.

You could say they wasted their life.

But it is up to each person to wake up and smell

the coffee, smell the roses

It must take some tremendous character defect to spend ones life in the watchtower.

It is like being ungrateful to God,

apathetic to life, indifferent, unconcerned, ungrateful for being born

uninterested in life.

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Is it selfish to enjoy life?

by new hope and happiness in

i mean there are some great debates running on this forum :-.

what is spirit exactly?.

what is love?.

James Brown

eat the best food--drink the finest wine--and f*ck the prettiest women

----IF you can afford to

Big Mac, That's why I got to go to the gym every day for an hour.

All that good food and drink and then to still look good for the pretty women.